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    I can't afford Montrose rent. So I don't get the same deal as the local yuppies? I'll spend my money at a restaurant that wants my business.

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    You know, I'll bet that if you go to that Waffle House in Stafford and say you are a neighbor (and a blogger!) you will get a discount.

    Oh, wait, you already get a discount from Tony's, don't you?

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    …how would they know? is it possible they are just reaching out to their neighborhood, knowing that people in the area might be more likely to make a trip?

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    My montrose rent is cheap. My Montrose Monday lunches are, too. It's just a way to increase monday lunch biz, why would people get offended by this? They are in Montrose, they're trying to build neighborhood loyalty/identity. Pretty simple. Wait, you asked non-Montrose people. My bad

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    Oh yay! I love living in Montrose.

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    Albert Nurick

    Nope. I pay full price at Tony's, just like everyone else.

    I'd expect folks who are getting a deal to like the fact that they're getting one. Deals are great. My problem is that everyone isn't getting a chance to get the same great deal.

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    You have to show your drivers license with a 77006 or 77098 zip code to get the discount.

    And how, exactly, does someone ELSE getting a discount hurt you boys from Sugar Land?

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    Scott L.

    Would this be as much of an issue if it were Bellaire, Sugarland, or Jersey Village? I could understand if this were say… River Oaks or Tanglewood… but Montrose isn't an exclusively "upscale" area. It has people from various income levels.

    For the record, I don't live anywhere near Montrose and have never benefited from someone else's Montrose drivers license (not yet anyway ;)).

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    Albert Nurick

    To me, the issue isn't where the restaurant is located. The issue is preferential treatment to certain customers, in this case based on geography.

    I don't doubt that if the restaurant were in River Oaks that there would be much more of an uproar.

    One thing I'd like to make clear: I think it's very nice that El Real is doing a special deal for customer appreciation on Mondays. I just don't like the fact that it's limited to a certain group, a group that isn't open to anyone.

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    But how does that hurt YOU Albert?

    It is not as if they will lower their prices overall if they stop this promotion. Those of us in the Montrose bear the burden of extra traffic and parking, whereas you in Sugar Land don't.

    In economic terms, we are disproportionally absorbing the externalities of the restaurant. Maybe they are just trying to compensate us for that fact.

    For the record, I have never taken advantage of the discount. And it is extremely unlikely that I ever will. But does that hurt me?

    Of course not.

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    I'm less annoyed by the concept than the medium. Plenty of local restaurants advertise deals to their neighbors using this amazing medium called THE MAIL. Using social media to do this is hard, probably accomplished best with Foursquare or some other type of location aware tool. Blasting it out on Twitter just reinforces to me how much I won't get this discount. Kinda annoying. Not really offensive tho.

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    Albert Nurick

    Anon, this isn't about me personally. It's about giving a special deal to people in a certain area, but excluding those who don't have an address in that area.

    It's about charging two groups different prices for the same meal on the same night, when the only difference between the groups is that one is from Montrose and one is from Pearland.

    To El Real, it's being neighborly. To me, it's discrimination.

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    But how far are you gonna go?

    I mean, that guy over there got a coupon and I didn't, isn't that exclusionary?

    Kids eat free? Seniors get a discount? Where's my middle-aged discount for supporting the kids and the seniors?

    If I buy X product, I get Y for a discount. What if I'm allergic to X? I still want that discount on my favorite product, Y!

    The problem is most discounts are exclusionary in some way unless it's a blanket "Tuesdays, get a marinated pig heart free!" type deal.

    This is much ado about nothing. Slow food news day in Houston. Let's talk about valet parking or Top Chef or something instead.

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    Albert, I love you man.

    By purchasing a house in The Woodlands, you have earned the right to enjoy "Texas' most celebrated master-planned community" (their words.) To me, it's admirable to purchase a home there.

    I'm guessing you've got to adhere to a lot of community standards. You can't have an old pickup in your front yard. Pink yard flamingos are likely frowned on. Maybe you are forced to use an electric lawnmower with a bag on it, and teenagers are prohibited from purchasing aftermarket speakers or amps for their vehicles. You are probably required to dispose of all the pine needles properly, in one of three trash receptacles in primary colors, or you can compost them yourself, as long as you keep it behind the mansion. Neighbors have a hotline on a refrigerator magnet to call if they see you pee on the side of your own house.

    Every eighth car is a law enforcement vehicle, which keeps the pesky teenagers from milling about. Got teenagers? No problem. Slap a 100 club sticker on the ass of their new X-mas Lexus.

    Again, The Woodlands (is) the most celebrated master-planned community in Texas. Gotta give George P. Mitchell some props for putting that together. He left the trees there.

    In its magnificent perpetual evergreen-scented grace, The Woodlands (is?)(are?)larger than most Texas cities, but that's hard to research since The Woodlands, isn't a city. It (The Woodlands) considers itself a "township" rather than a city. The name of the city/township/community starts with "The", which is even more creepy.

    As you know, TW is a lot different than Montrose. Your community was built so people could commute downtown without dealing with city life.

    Montrose is the core of Houston city life.

    Hey, it's obvious that you're shaking things up to promote conversation,and I'll take the bait this time. I understand The Woodlands is 92.36% white, and Houston isn't.

    But calling out a Montrose restaurant for "discrimination"?

    You live in The Woodlands.

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    Albert, did you know that Griff's lets their neighbors in for free on St Patrick's day?

    It is a real pain during that week, but none of my neighbors complain, because they are trying to take care of those externalities.

    Life isn't fair.

    Get over it.

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    Sheesh, there are more trolls on here than under a Grimm fairy tale bridge.

    "Montrose is the core of Houston city life." Okay, great. It's also host to some really swell crime stats, gentrification, zero lot line building, and vast oceans of pristine concrete. I like Montrose. But let's not pretend it has no flaws while you drip disdain for suburbia. Why do you have a dog in that fight? Did a mom (wearing a yoga outfit) in a Chevy Suburban with a "Woodlands Crew" sticker cut you off this morning?

    I do love your handle, by the way. It's truly awesome.

    As for the actual topic, here, I think the term "discrimination" is laughably applied here, but let's be clear, it's traffic/discussion bait… and it probably worked.

    Carry on, all.

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    Albert Nurick

    Hey, Jay!

    I was wondering when someone would bring up the Woodlands. I've lived here for about 6 years now, and the reality of living here was quite a bit different than what I feared it would be like. I was originally attracted by two things: Very affordable housing prices and a beautiful setting with lots of trees. Visually, it reminds me of the Memorial area, but with homes I could actually afford.

    While you're right about the neighborhood associations enforcing community standards, it's no more strict than many similar associations across the area. You'd better keep your property clean and in good repair, but our teens blast their music when they're driving around. Plenty of them are spoiled, but that's hardly a problem unique to this area.

    Crime isn't unknown out here, some local businesses thrive while others go out of business. I never got grief for the 1989 Jeep Cherokee that sat pretty mich immobile in my driveway for five years. (It sold recently to a neighbor and became his daughter's first car, much to my bride's joy.)

    The Woodlands does have a lot of white residents – a quick drive around town will confirm that. But everyone is welcome.

    One of my favorite pizza joints is owned by an African-American family whose son played on our son's baseball team; the owner is an Alabama alum and he gave me no end of grief when they beat UT a couple of years ago. A very successful Italian restaurant is run by a family that immigrated from Italy; their 13-year-old son can frequently be found waiting tables. Just down the road from where I live a couple from south of the border have a taco truck set up; they've built an outdoor pavilion that's packed at lunchtime.

    What I've not seen is discrimination against outsiders. Everyone is welcome to visit or move here, and everyone pays the same prices. One bit of misinformation is that only mansions are found in the Woodlands. Within a half-mile of my house you'll find 2 million dollar mansions, and you'll also find $120K homes. All are surrounded by trees, all enjoy the benefits of the great community services, and all mingle at the local restaurants, school events, and little league fields.

    So if you're trying to hold up the Woodlands as some sort of example of discrimination, you might want to stop by and see what the town is actually like; a bunch of the stereotypes bandied about by folks who'd never set foot outside the Loop are sadly mistaken.

    Here in the Woodlands, you don't see protests about Walmart opening a new store. And you don't see establishments offering specials that require you to prove your residency in order to get the best deal.

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    I believe the first time I saw the tweet from El real some time back it was introduced as I read it to be a part of the community type event. As in El real is a part of the Montrose community. For full disclosure I'm not far from Albert just outside the bubble.

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    Discrimination sucks. Charging a different price based on neighborhood is almost as bad as basing it on race. Wouldn't want all the brown folks from nearby neighborhoods coming in to save money, right?

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      This is rediculous, clearly you are not aware of how many "brown folk" live in Montrose.

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    From today's B-4-u eat:

    "Hey Jim! If your first name is Jim (not middle or last), on Tuesday, Dec 6 Red Robin will serve you a FREE Sweet Jim Beam Bacon Swiss Burger. This offer is extended to guests whose first name is Jim or a derivative of Jim, including James, Jamie, Jimmy, Jimbo and Jameson – must have photo ID"

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    I pay tax when I buy something from a Texas business. I don't pay tax when I buy from a Louisiana business. Do I therefore conclude that I live in the wrong state and it's unfair? No. I don't.

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    Is a discount for bad food a good thing?


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Great deal at El Real – for selected people

by Albert Nurick time to read: 1 min